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WHEATCROFT AND BISBY

A Presentation By Joy and Dave Wheatcroft

 

Forward by Joy Wheatcroft
I came across your site while searching for information regarding my husband’s family history. We have always known that his great, great grandfather (John Wheatcroft) migrated to South Australia with his wife Charlotte (nee Bisby) in 1856. Thanks to your site, I now know the origin of their home! We would love to make contact with anyone who may be related, or have more information about the family history. In return we can supply a very detailed, and interesting history of their life after they arrived in South Australia, right through the generations until now. We have no record of any earlier descendants, but would love to be able to track the family back further.
Kind regards, Joy Wheatcroft davejoy@internode.on.net 

 

 

 

On the 1841 census of Thrybergh the Bisby family are listed as :-
John Bisby born in Yorkshire age 39 working as a Farm Bayliffe
Betty Bisby born in Yorkshire age 37
Charlotte Bisby born in Yorkshire age 13 
Martha Bisby born in Yorkshire age 6 
Mary Bisby born in Yorkshire age 4 
William Bisby born in Yorkshire age 2 

At the age of 23 in 1851 Charlotte Bisby and a John Wheatcroft were married in Thrybergh on the 1st December , presumably in St Leonard's Church.
Though we have so far established the origin of Charlotte the origin of her husband John is as yet unknown. John Wheatcroft may have lived in one of the local villages or possibly moved to Thrybergh to work for the Fullerton family around 1850. The Fullerton's who were the landholders in Thrybergh often brought workers to Thrybergh from the south of England where they also had property. 
John and Charlotte emigrated to South Australia in 1856 to start a new life, this proved to be a successful gamble, John was skilled as a “hand sower” of wheat.
From the archives of the Maritime museum here in Port Adelaide.South Australia
According to their records John and Charlotte left Southampton aboard the ship “Blundell” on June 16th 1856, and arrived at Port Adelaide on October 12th 1856.  The Blundell was a 573 ton ship that made many journeys from England to Australia and New Zealand in this period. The cost for each adult was approx. 12 pounds from England to South Australia, and  children under 14 years the cost was 6 pounds each,.
 John  was listed as an agricultural labourer and  was aged 32,  Charlotte was aged 29. They also brought with them a daughter, Martha, aged less than one year. To the best of my knowledge, (according to information from one of John’s granddaughters in the 1970’s) they had a child before they left England, but it died in infancy.
John spent the first few years leasing land, and hand sowing for others, before buying his own property around 1877. This land was to be handed down through five generations.

Moving forward in time to 1881we find that Charlottes younger brother William was now married and living at Nether Hallem Sheffield and is listed as follows:-

Wm. Bisby Head M Male 41 Thrybergh, York, England Gardener ;
Elizabeth Bisby Wife M Female 41 (British Subject), East Indies Household Duties
Martha Bisby Niece Female 12 Rawmarsh, York, England Scholar [ see below ]
Dwelling 2 Bower Rd Nether Hallam, York, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4627 / 26 Page Number 1

Martha Bisby above was born in Rawmarsh, so following that piece of information we found members of the Bisby family there in 1881.
Elizabeth Bisby Head U Female 36 Thryburgh, York, England Dressmaker
John Bisby Son Male 6 Rawmarsh, York, England Scholar
John Bisby Nephew U Male 26 Rawmarsh, York, England Coal Miner
Fred Bisby Nephew U Male 19 Rawmarsh, York, England Coal Miner
Dwelling 17 Craven Yd Rawmarsh, York, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4679 / 57 Page Number 13

William Bisby Head M Male 32 Mexbro, York, England Carter
Thomas Bisby Son U Male 19 Kilnhirst, York, England
Martha Bisby Daughter U Female 8 Park Gate, York, England
Eliza Bisby Daughter U Female 6 Park Gate, York, England
Elizabeth Bisby Daughter U Female 4 Kilnhirst, York, England
Mary Bisby Daughter U Female 1 Greasbro, York, England
Mary Bisby Wife M Female 31 Worksop, Nottingham, England
Dwelling 23 Green Lane Rawmarsh, York, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4679 / 82 Page Number   15

Charles Bisby Head W Male 76 High Melton, York, England Farm Labourer Ag Lab
Frances Bisby Daur U Female 39 Dalton, York, England House Keeper Dom
John William Bisby Grandson Male 4 Thrybergh, York, England
Dwelling Cottage
Census Place Thrybergh, York, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4684 / 54 Page Number 19

It is uncertain as yet as to the exact relationship of these families, however we can assume that Martha Bisby age 12 above was the daughter of Elizabeth Bisby, and it seems by the U for unmarried on the census that Elizabeth had two illegitimate children. If she had been a widow then it would be recorded with a W. The other question is, whose children were John and Fred the nephews of Elizabeth. Was there an elder brother missing from the 1841 census, perhaps working away from home age around 17 in 1841.

2006 Dave Wheatcroft was the fifth generation on that original parcel of  land in South Australia obtained by John and Charlotte, until the sale of the family farm in the early 1990s. Dave and his wife Joy still hold some original items that belonged to John, including receipts and furniture.

Text other than census records © Joy Wheatcroft

 

Many thanks to Joy and Dave for sharing their family here.

If you can help with any information on the above family in particular regarding John Wheatcroft then please contact Joy and Dave at  davejoy@internode.on.net  They would love to hear from you.

 

 

 

 

 

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