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1858  John Henry Green  1915

 

John Henry Green was born in Dalton the son of Henry Green a coalminer. The family moved to Rawmarsh around 1860. John Henry was to become known as Henry in later years. After a life of involvement in the local communities he sadly passed away in his Thrybergh Home. The newspaper report below possibly from the Rotherham Advertiser is a really fine tribute to this remarkable man.

 

Death of Mr Henry Green
A Striking Personality
Former School Board Chairman

 

The death of Mr Harry Green, of Park Terrace, Thrybergh, on Monday morning, has aroused in the district a wave of sympathy and regret such as is rarely experienced.  Nearly every society in the district – labour, political, literary and musical – will feel deeply the loss Thrybergh has sustained, for Mr Green was perhaps the most versatile person in the district, and his abilities were always at the disposal of those to whom they could be of the least possible benefit.
 
Born at Dalton 57 years ago his early days were spent in the rural environments of the then pretty, quiet peaceful village.  Receiving but a sparse share of what education a poor boy could get at that period, young Harry drifted into the pit in order to swell the needed family income.  Early on he showed an aptitude for learning, and became noted even as a boy for hankering after what was then thought by his friends to be impossible knowledge.  Nothing daunted, the young man began to read and study any and every book and paper he could get.  He told the writer a few years ago that the very first book that set him really thinking was a little history book (it was from a Mr Dutchman or Goodison, and we are not quite sure at the moment which gentleman it was), he paid 4s.6p. for it – 1s. down, and his pocket money of 3d. per week.  He read in that book of the ancient wars among the nations and somewhere he came across the passage : “The Greeks were always victorious because they were educated and disciplined.”  This set young Green thinking and he said that every time he looked at that passage he could not help substituting “Green” for “Greek”.  In a few years after that he was Chairman of the Rawmarsh School Board, and was an authority on education.  He was a lecturer on both science and art, literature, horticulture, and knew more than a little of the Classics.  In the Science and Art department he held certificates of proficiency from Sheffield University, Firth College, Kensington College, Privy Councils of Education, Science and Art Departments, Advanced Stage.  In 1900, while acting as Chairman of the Rawmarsh Education Committee he had the honour of opening the new Ryecroft Schools, when he was presented with a golden key.  On the dissolution of the old School Boards, Mr Green was presented with an illuminated address by his associates and friends.  This was signed by a number of influential Rawmarsh gentlemen, and is very flattering in its tribute to the abilities of the deceased man.  He continued in the paths of education almost until his death, and only some two years ago relinquished his position as member of the Whiston Education Sub-committee, when he was publicly thanked by the Chairman for his service to that body.
 
Mr Green for a time was Chairman of the Thrybergh Parish Council on which body he did some useful work.  He was also a prominent member of the Dalton, Thrybergh and District Literary and Debating Society.  Here the full attendance of members and a good sprinkling of interested visitors was always synonymous with the announcement that Mr Green would take a leading part in the debate.
 
Whilst always scrupulously fair to his opponent and stickler for truth and principle at all times he was feared by most debaters.  From thirty years knowledge personally of his public work we only remember his losing the verdict on two occasions, and on one of these he took up the most unpopular side possible at the time.


 
AS A MINING OFFICIAL


 
It was, however, in the labour world that he was best known.  For several years he was the most popular labour leader in South Yorkshire, and was at the head of over 3000 Silverwood miners.  In this capacity he fought many stiff battles for the cause.  When addressing the men at their meetings he was noted for his outspokenness, and never feared to risk his reputation through plain speaking if they were taking up any unreasonable attitude, the late John Brown’s strike being a typical example of this.  He was a highly valued member of the panel of Rotherham and district, and had been the recipient of high praise from such men as Alderman Grundy, Councillor Featherstone, Mr Fred Hall M.P. and others.  He has always served on the Rotherham Hospital Board, Working-Men’s Clubs in the district who have derived some benefit from his association with them, and he was a member of several whilst he held the post of President of the Thrybergh Working-Men’s Club until recently, when he voluntarily resigned, but was persuaded to act on the Committee.
 
Local institutions in the village were always sure of his hearty support, and he was a vice-president of the cricket and football clubs, and also the colliery band, his services for the latter being highly appreciated.


 
A WORKER’S FRIEND


 
Since the Workers’ Compensation Act came into force, Mr Green held the post of adviser and secretary for compensation for the Silverwood miners.  In this, as in everything else he took up, he quickly became adept, and he had no rival in Yorkshire in compensation matters.  Dr. Pye-Smith, the eminent Sheffield doctor, counted him as a friend, whilst nearly every gentleman of influence in the Rotherham area was proud to shake hands with him.  He could have made a great name at Barnsley as a miner’s leader and probably become an M.P. in the cause, but his retiring disposition and bashful temperament foiled him when the great chance came along.  In fact he begged not to be posted for candidate for executive honours, but opinion was overwhelming against this, and reluctantly he allowed his name to go forward.  His ambitions, however, never soared to ethereal heights, and the word “vain” was the very last adjunct applicable to his character – hence he stayed on in the lower order of things amongst his fellow men.  Good for them he did so is the expressed sentiment of all.  Reverting to the extraordinary versatility of the man it may be stated he dabbled in nearly everything, and was successful in most things.  He has held the position of Manager (under the Rawmarsh Council) of a sewerage works outfall, and held diplomas for expert farming, poultry breeding, etc.  Many people will remember also that some years ago he kept some of the finest carrier pigeons in the district, and was especially praised in “Fur and Feather” for a fine pen of bantam prize fowls at a North Midland show.  He was one of the founders of the Ryecroft Working-Men’s Club and held the post of Secretary there for some time.  A few years ago the Rotherham Rural Council requisitioned his services for a deposition to London on the tramways question.
 
His success spread even to his private domestic affairs, for he has reared a family of 12 children for the most part.  Four of these are married, and the others range down to tender years.
 
Although the end came suddenly it was not wholly unexpected, for the past two years he was obviously sinking, but nothing would induce him to relax his labours and husband his strength.  He was actually working on compensation claims less than a week previous to his death, and even in his last hours when the spirit was fast failing the semi-conscious utterings told the death watchers that he died as he had always lived, his brain busy working for the welfare of his fellow man.


 
THE FUNERAL


 
The funeral took place at Rawmarsh Parish Church on Thursday afternoon.  The cortege left Mr Green’s house shortly after two o’clock arriving at the cemetary about 3pm.  The service was conducted by the Rev. G.H.C. Bowen, rector of Thrybergh.  A tremendous crowd gathered in the cemetary to pay their last tributes to Mr Green, and some very pathetic scenes were witnessed.  Several beautiful wreaths were laid on the grave, among which were tributes from “Mrs Green and Family”; “With deepest respect and sympathy from the neighbours”; “Token of respect from the members of the Rawmarsh Working-Men’s Club”; “In loving memory from G. & E. Green”; “Token of respect from members of the Thrybergh Working-Men’s Club”; “Token of deepest sympathy from the Ryecroft Working-Men’s Club”; and “With sincere sympathy from Dr and Mrs Adams”.
The mourners were : -
First Carriage:- Mr Ernest Green, Miss Jennie Green, Miss Edith Green and Mr Albert Green
Second Carriage:- Miss Lilian Green, Miss Milly Green, Mr Harry Green, Mr Jim Green, and Mr & Mrs Holloway.
Third Carriage:- Mrs John Stones (daughter), Mr & Mrs H. Towler (daughter and son-in-law), Mr W. Green (brother), and Mrs P.J. Burt (sister).
Fourth Carriage:- Mr & Mrs C.E. Green (brother and sister-in-law), Mr & Mrs Brooks (sister and brother-in-law), Mrs Darwin (daughter), and Mrs Green (niece).
Fifth Carriage:- Mr & Mrs Geo. Green, Mr W. Weston, Mr E. Deakin, Mrs Jackson, and Private G. Green (West Yorks.).
Sixth Carriage:- Mr F.W. Stamp, Mr E. Green, and Mr C. Green
Seventh Carriage:- Mr J. Marriot, Mr Geo Swift and Mr Simpson (representing Roundwood Colliery), Mr Geo Wall and Mr G. Ackroyd (representing Silverwood Colliery).
Eighth Carriage:- Councillor S. Featherstone and Mr A. Sykes (representing Aldwarks Main Colliery No. 1), Councillor Greaves and Mr F. Cheetham (representing Aldwarks Main Colliery No. 2).
Ninth Carriage:- Mr W. Pearce, Mr W.A. Barker, Mr A. Hoyland, Mr T.W. Clarke, Mr S.N. Selman and Mrs T. Brown.
Tenth Carriage:-  Mr John Dibbs, Mr Sawyer Robinson, Mr Walker, Mr France, Mr Ramsden, Mr G. Bailey, Mr J. Walker, Mr F.J. Bates, Mr J. Ashton, Mr C. Hellewell and Mr A. Bailey.
Eleventh Carriage:- Mr G. Gill (weighman), Messrs T. Roberts, E. Gaskell, R. Dabbs, J. Barlow, W. England, J. Davies, W. Messon (Club members), Mr A. E. Dodd, Mr J. Sawyer, and Mr J. Hoskin (Financial Secretary for the Yorkshire Miners Assoc.).
 
Messrs J. Ainley (Secretary at Silverwood Colliery), Geo. Wall (Treasurer), J. Stamp, F. Stamp, J. Wilson, J. Marriot, R. Hinchcliffe and G. Fulwood were the bearers.
 
The coffin which was of unpolished oak with brass mountings bore the inscription :  “Henry Green, Died June 29th 1915, Aged 57 years”.
 
Mr T.W. Outram was the undertaker.
 

The article above was kindly contributed by Helen Grazier

 

 

Many thanks to Helen Grazier  helen_grazier@dodo.com.au  
and Andrea Jackson andreaja@bigpond.net.au   for introducing me to the incredible John Henry Green. Helen and Andrea are researching the family so if you can help them with any information please contact them on the emails above.

 

 

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